The unfortunate tale of alliance mail privileges ...

Coon1

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Hello

I am in TLA under the id of Dr Pepper (PB is my route). I do not know if this does help but there was one attack I made against a guy that just so happened to coincide with I believe a mass attack by another alliance. Now who against who I have no idea but it so happened my attack 3 hit as the mass hit were at attack 1 which helped whoever get the land. This was just after PB's came out. Any suggestion this was a setup us helping them is purely coincidence I just got lucky with timing.

Now secondly regarding a spy in the TLA midst there certainly was suspicion but no hard facts I am afraid but I am not privy to the alliance logs. I agree with another suggestion on here that rank 1 for the good of the game should split.

Cheers

Coruba

^this

Whilst 2 of our members were attacked by you at an inconvenient time and under suspicious circumstances i am willing to accept what you have said.

This however was one incident, several others are yet to be resolved
 

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These may help

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:35:59 Edit Quote
Flight over Vadge Eye Nah [2160] successful:
News From The Past 15 Minutes:
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Hostiles
News from your sources is that in 3 ticks, 8,000,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to attack you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 2 ticks, 6,000,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Staff Recalled.
Staff Recalled.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Hostiles
News from your sources is that in 2 ticks, 9,100,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to attack you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Hostiles
News from your sources is that in 3 ticks, 6,000,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to attack you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.
Mon 21st Jun, year 1. Evening Incoming Hostiles
News from your sources is that in 5 ticks, 16,019,998 people from [somebody] will arrive to attack you.
Mon 21st Jun, year 1. Evening Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.
Mon 21st Jun, year 1. Afternoon Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:33:31 Edit Quote
keep a close eye on those flyovers

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:31:07 Edit Quote
kk - thx

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 10:30:01 Quote
Sent

From: Why am i still here [509], 01st Jul, 10:22:09 Quote
sorry on my way to work

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:21:32 Edit Quote
No-one else online - I will send to one of the others

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 10:20:26 Quote
even sending fakes to draw out their defences?

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 10:19:39 Quote
can anyone else commit?

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:19:02 Edit Quote
kk

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 10:17:45 Quote
I am sending to Vadge Eye Nah [2160]

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:16:52 Edit Quote
229, 938, 2160 & 8130

Pick a target - send next tick (evening)

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:12:30 Edit Quote
Yes - I know - but if you guys send ahead of me I can add the PB's at the optimum time

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 10:11:55 Quote
Mail me, tell me where to send =)

From: Why am i still here [509], 01st Jul, 10:10:26 Quote
best to just rush i think?

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:08:54 Edit Quote
I am also going for the best bounty ones as well

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:07:56 Edit Quote
Targets are:

4811 5 Lord of Lust Nobody 4,283 588,314,719
938 8 9 Inch Custard Cannon Criminal 5,578 556,589,135
8130 10 Another round playing bush Rude 4,349 510,533,985
3314 15 Nano Mayhem Rude 4,165 483,779,888
6009 19 Fill Bill Notable 4,695 469,670,918
229 20 Dixie Normous Unsavoury 4,017 467,767,492
2160 31 Vadge Eye Nah Rude 4,160 388,134,559

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:06:46 Edit Quote
I have a plan - I am going to send 4 mobs of 2 mil PB's when I get them in 3 ticks. Does anyone want to piggy back a mob with flak and wheelies? If so I need you to send to a large land target in 2 ticks time? Anyone up for it? I will just be sending the PB's and no wheelies however I can help with flak.

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:18:11 Quote
ok cheers bud

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:17:41 Edit Quote
They have sent out on yours btw - I won't be staying last tick btw - over to you if you stay the last one

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:12:36 Quote
yueah bud im happy to stay

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:12:10 Quote
Flight over Vadge Eye Nah [2160] successful:
News From The Past 15 Minutes:
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Afternoon Defending [somebody]
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
[middle] 100,000 hostile Hooligan attacked, disabling 31,561 allied staff.
[range] 1,600,000 hostile Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 1,718,450 allied staff.

Disabled: 31,561 friendlies disabled.
Died: 1,718,450 friendlies dead.

Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Staff Recalled.
Staff Recalled.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 750,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Staff Recalled.
Staff Recalled.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 1,000,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Defending [somebody]
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
[range] 100,000 hostile Hooligan attacked, disabling 59,636 allied staff.

Disabled: 59,636 friendlies disabled.

Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Morning Outgoing Friendlies
You sent 15,166,801 employees to defend [somebody], they are set to arrive in 5 ticks.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Morning Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:10:24 Edit Quote
I trust u happy to stay - I apologise ahead of time if you lose a lot as so will I if I am wrong.

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:05:11 Edit Quote
Good thing that report - he can recall but can't resend to make it back in time

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:04:26 Quote
holy crap you rank 4 bud! you should get more land i reckon

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:03:46 Edit Quote
that is on the other one

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:03:33 Edit Quote
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
[range] 3,000,000 allied Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 18,917,838 hostile staff.

Died: 18,917,838 enemies dead.

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:02:19 Edit Quote
to be fair it is not a good idea for me to get land - better the alliance gets land and catches up

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:01:42 Quote
Flight over Vadge Eye Nah [2160] successful:
News From The Past 15 Minutes:
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 1,000,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Defending [somebody]
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
[range] 100,000 hostile Hooligan attacked, disabling 59,636 allied staff.

Disabled: 59,636 friendlies disabled.

Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Morning Outgoing Friendlies
You sent 15,166,801 employees to defend [somebody], they are set to arrive in 5 ticks.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Morning Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:01:08 Quote
I spose. i think i got luck piggy backing off this ally attck haha

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:59:40 Edit Quote
Need some armour defense anyways lol

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 10:56:50 Quote
Oh Holy Crap! I sent droids? not paying enough attention lol

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:55:03 Edit Quote
Just for future record - never send Droids - they only for defense :)

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 10:54:15 Quote
Target: Vadge Eye Nah [2160]
Status: Attacking. ETA: 2

Gardener: 12,000,000
Wheelbarrower: 4,998
Geo-Phys Thief: 15,000
Small Droid: 4,000,000

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:46:33 Edit Quote
That is on my guy

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:46:17 Edit Quote
ue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Hostiles
News from your sources is that in 2 ticks, 12,200,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to attack you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Hostiles
News from your sources is that in 5 ticks, 14,999,953 people from [somebody] will arrive to attack you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Hostiles
News from your sources is that in 3 ticks, 8,000,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to attack you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Early hours Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 2 ticks, 6,000,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:45:45 Edit Quote
Check the flyovers

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 10:45:28 Edit Quote
Funny - lmao - I think we have just struck a mass attack on rank 1 by rank 2

From: Money*****MONEY [3673], 01st Jul, 20:45:28 Quote
Well first of all we will need to start make sum troops if we like To be in that top fight

From: Zeratul [8988], 01st Jul, 20:44:54 Quote
key in this game is activity. if we have few ppl online doesant matter how much score and land and tech we got.

From: Master of Wars [9660], 01st Jul, 20:36:04 Quote
This round is shaping up interestingly. Right now ourselves and rank four are the same size as rank one, which in theory means we could topple them. Rank one have the tech lead, which is a powerful thing, but that only lasts until the trees are finished. If I were them, I'd be planning to wipe out my enemies before that happens. I suppose I don't know whether ranks one nd two are warring right now, although in my day such wars tended to be short and bloody, which clearly hasn't happened. Either way, my point is its important we remain vigilant.

From: samsung [2466], 01st Jul, 19:29:23 Quote
just chilling?

From: Money*****MONEY [3673], 01st Jul, 19:26:33 Quote
where the hell is everyone?

From: Money*****MONEY [3673], 01st Jul, 18:49:07 Quote
System hack on Agathor [2209] successful:
Staff [53,557,363 Total] £804,193,270
Gardener [36,500,000] Harvester [2,000,000]
Hippy [2,600,000] Yob [300,000]
Hooligan [550,000] Heavy Thug [2,415,388]
Petrol Bomber [9,000,000] Wheelbarrower [191,975]

Mean amount of petrols

From: Meowth That's Right ^.- [3016], 01st Jul, 17:10:01 Quote
maybe ill go fanatics? :p

From: Money*****MONEY [3673], 01st Jul, 14:03:32 Quote
Clock 14:03 and im the only one online

Online Members:
ID: Rank: Active: Player: Title: Acres: Score:
3673 23 01st Jul 14:02 Moneysmeg-headMONEY |2m hip|850k y|750k private|500k Officer 2,651 436,855,239
1 IDs Totals: 2,651 436,855,239

From: Money*****MONEY [3673], 01st Jul, 13:46:32 Quote
13:46 only two player online!

[last edited: 01st Jul, 13:48]

From: Money*****MONEY [3673], 01st Jul, 11:44:22 Quote
Tree 70,386,272
Bush 407,195,944
Flower 594,103,280
Grass 1,342,307,552

i start to plant these when my attack returns, going to take sum time :)

From: Money*****MONEY [3673], 01st Jul, 11:43:32 Quote
true

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:43:02 Edit Quote
Going to recall on mine - not worth losing when I in effect cost them 43 Bil

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:37:36 Quote
I will give it a bash, may as well

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:36:27 Edit Quote
They lost a lot on that tick however - the alliance was at 9.1 now at 8.7

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:35:35 Edit Quote
Probably suggest staying - over to you though

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:32:12 Edit Quote
I will recall end of tick on yours Comfordor

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:32:02 Quote
Flight over Vadge Eye Nah [2160] successful:
News From The Past 15 Minutes:
Wed 23rd Jun, year 1. Early hours Defending [somebody]
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
Instead of hanging around doing nothing, we got some target practise and pelted stones at the windows.

Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 110,569 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 1,206,792 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Staff Recalled.
Staff Recalled.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 4,211,717 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Defending [somebody]
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
[close] 31,562 allied Sleeping Gas Trap attacked, disabling 476,082 hostile staff.
[close] 5,966,662 hostile Attack Dog attacked, killing 497,101 allied staff.
[close] 687,528 allied Protestor Guru attacked, distracting 3,440,785 hostile staff.
[close] 581,540 allied Small Droid made some funny beeps and disabled 2,795,529 hostile staff.
[middle] 1,600,000 hostile Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 1,242,223 allied staff.
[range] 4,000,000 hostile Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 42,238 allied staff.
[close] 136,256 hostile Wheelbarrower stole 280 land. [45] tree. [210] bush. [12] flower. [13] grass. [0] uncultivated.

Distracted: 3,440,785 enemies distracted.
Disabled: 3,271,611 enemies disabled.
Died: 1,781,562 friendlies dead.


What do you reckon, stay or recall?

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:30:54 Edit Quote
Battle Report - Attacking Vadge Eye Nah [2160]
Instead of hanging around doing nothing, we got some target practise and pelted stones at the windows.

Wed 23rd Jun, year 1. Early hours This Tick Attacking 9 Inch Custard Cannon [938]
Battle Report - Attacking 9 Inch Custard Cannon [938]
[range] 4,000,000 allied Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 8,606,436 hostile staff.

Died: 8,606,436 [£43,167,304,700] enemies dead.

You gained 60,434 effectiveness.
You gained 28.47 fame.
You gained 11.74 honour.
You earned £5,111,875,730 bounty.

From: Comfordor. Pillow Wizard [4345], 01st Jul, 11:23:13 Quote
News From The Past 15 Minutes:
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Unknown
We were unable to get any specific data on this news.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Staff Recalled.
Staff Recalled.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 4,211,717 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Evening Defending [somebody]
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
[close] 31,562 allied Sleeping Gas Trap attacked, disabling 476,082 hostile staff.
[close] 5,966,662 hostile Attack Dog attacked, killing 497,101 allied staff.
[close] 687,528 allied Protestor Guru attacked, distracting 3,440,785 hostile staff.
[close] 581,540 allied Small Droid made some funny beeps and disabled 2,795,529 hostile staff.
[middle] 1,600,000 hostile Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 1,242,223 allied staff.
[range] 4,000,000 hostile Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 42,238 allied staff.
[close] 136,256 hostile Wheelbarrower stole 280 land. [45] tree. [210] bush. [12] flower. [13] grass. [0] uncultivated.

Distracted: 3,440,785 enemies distracted.
Disabled: 3,271,611 enemies disabled.
Died: 1,781,562 friendlies dead.

Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Afternoon Outgoing Friendlies
You sent 15,166,801 employees to defend [somebody], they are set to arrive in 5 ticks.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Afternoon Defending [somebody]
Battle Report - Defending [somebody]
[middle] 100,000 hostile Hooligan attacked, disabling 31,561 allied staff.
[range] 1,600,000 hostile Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 1,718,450 allied staff.

Disabled: 31,561 friendlies disabled.
Died: 1,718,450 friendlies dead.

Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Staff Recalled.
Staff Recalled.
Tue 22nd Jun, year 1. Noon Incoming Friendlies
News from your sources is that in 1 ticks, 750,000 people from [somebody] will arrive to defend you.

From: Dr Pepper [7854], 01st Jul, 11:21:20 Edit Quote
Battle Report - Attacking Vadge Eye Nah [2160]
[close] 31,562 hostile Sleeping Gas Trap attacked, disabling 476,082 allied staff.
[close] 5,966,662 allied Attack Dog attacked, killing 497,101 hostile staff.
[close] 687,528 hostile Protestor Guru attacked, distracting 3,440,785 allied staff.
[close] 581,540 hostile Small Droid made some funny beeps and disabled 2,795,529 allied staff.
[middle] 1,600,000 allied Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 1,242,223 hostile staff.
[range] 4,000,000 allied Petrol Bomber lobbed Molotov Cocktails and killed 42,238 hostile staff.
[close] 136,256 allied Wheelbarrower stole 280 land. [45] tree. [210] bush. [12] flower. [13] grass. [0] uncultivated.

Distracted: 3,440,785 [£8,460,312,200] friendlies distracted.
Disabled: 3,271,611 [£7,855,681,800] friendlies disabled.
Died: 1,781,562 [£17,878,744,000] enemies dead.

You gained 591 effectiveness.
You gained 0.09 fame.
You lost 0.70 honour.
You earned £2,399,886 bounty.

We didn't collect the land btw - just got the kills
 

Coruba

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Just to confirm - I had just got PB's I was off to bed very shortly after and wanted to try them out. I got lucky that I sent at the time of a mass attack as noted above.
 

Coon1

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Just to confirm - I had just got PB's I was off to bed very shortly after and wanted to try them out. I got lucky that I sent at the time of a mass attack as noted above.

My eyes hurt. Were you in contact from anyone in r1 or another ally in the above or just your own ally?
 

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Nope - in contact with no - one. I have no idea who is even in rank 1 alliance even now. I am very much out of the loop.
 

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Why doesn't BoS and XXX both admit they have recon/spies etc!?

Both XXX and BoS had TLA's ID's early on, TLA had Other ally ID's early on.

If you guys are serious about weeding and kicking cheaters/multis, anyone that feeds you info about other ally's activities/ID/Intel obviously is one, so kick them out!

If you can't do that, then Just forgive and forget, geezus ****ing hell, just continue playing the game and stop acting like children spitting a tantrum when you don't get your way..

It's a smeging disgrace!

Comfordor, I can assure you that BoS had no ID list of TLA. Believe me when I say that you would have felt a 18-20 man inc for hours if we had it. In fact, before spies we had nine members of XXX pegged down as highly likely, another few as likely, and only Dr. Pepper as likely TLA. We were completely in the blind. Any inc you received from us were completely random.




Still avoiding that question Antney, why did they boost you?


Coon, in line with the response regarding why Lukey's target sent out:

Lukey rambling about not knowing why.
Dachi rambling about Lukey being boosted
why dont you ask the player?

why don't you go ask them? You obviously have the ID's - hell, you could've asked them the moment they sent?


On a more serious note, thanks to Coruba for standing up and shedding some light. Being at the receiving end of a bashing sucks, and it is easy to view the evidence in a skewered way when you're involved. A lot of the things on both sides here are circumstancial and could have other explanations. We've just seen one 'proof' (evidence) being just that.

On another note, I'm not denying the possibility that we have cheaters in BoS. It is within the realm of probability. As it is that any other alliance (including XXX) has cheaters within them. However, the evidence presented is not enough for me to say with certainty that there is cheating going on in any alliance.
 

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Sith

Sith

Thought I would be best to speak to u all, about my involvement in this round......basicly .......... Well I'm a delight ... What can I say!?
 

tolly12

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Sith: but I should explain myself as many people have become upset over what appears to have come from my actions,

ACTIONS from Sith
1) when we "XXX" were already at ETA 3 attacking I sent a screen shot to a friend in "The Loosing Alliance" so he could get his alliance to jump into are attack on "BOS" and HELP US!!!

2) "The Loosing Alliance" was planning there help to attack "BOS" and my friend was using my screen shot to pick targets to attack we were not already attacking, but at ETA 3 it was too late seeing they had no real forces to send.

3) we lost the attack and people went mental lol

EVIDENCE

1) I have evidence that no one in "The Loosing Alliance" ever see this screen shot other then Phill MCrackin a personal friend from outside bush. As I joined "The Loosing Alliance" to conduct a investigation to what went soo soo wrong and all the information they had was 20 minutes prior to us attacking "BOS" it was posted in the forum when the attack was taking place, therefore any multis of "BOS" inside "The Loosing Alliance" had a 20 minute warning of are attack.

MY AIMS

1) I wanted to win with "XXX" so what ever my actions caused my aim was always to help "XXX" and I was never fighting for "BOS" and was at no time deliberately being a spie.

SUMMARY

1) I personally can not see how my information passed could have had any affect on the round seeing Rank 1 never at any stage see this screen shot, and any multis in "The Loosing Alliance" would of only had a 20 minute pre-warning of the attack as no other info was posted on there forums, PROVEN!!!

2) there is Not one person other then Phill MCrackin that has ever seen this screen Shot up to now yet many are talking a lot about some think no one has seen and is currently sitting on my brothers phone.

3) only reason this topic is even here is due to some one asking me a random quistion, and more of a joke and I admitted sending a screen shot to there amazement and they then tried to cause trouble and put the whole round loss on me...easy to blame others when your angry.

APOLOGY

1) any ways I'll Apoligize to every one incase by some random way some one was able to hack into my brothers phone to recieve this screen shot haha

2) for giving "BOS" a 20 minute warning of are attack, incase they had multis in "The Loosing Alliance"

3) But mainly I Apologize to are enemy "BOS" who have lost there honourable and hard worked for Victory, and are now branded cheaters due to the situation I have caused

ABOUT MYSELF

Every one knows I'm a honourable and hard working player, and I have learned from my mistake here and this situation will not happen again on my behalf
 

Coon1

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We told phil mcracken in no uncertain terms that we did not want to deal with TLA and form a nap. You should have left it at that.

Sith has been given the exact reception he deserves
 

Coon1

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Why doesn't BoS and XXX both admit they have recon/spies etc!?

Both XXX and BoS had TLA's ID's early on, TLA had Other ally ID's early on.

If you guys are serious about weeding and kicking cheaters/multis, anyone that feeds you info about other ally's activities/ID/Intel obviously is one, so kick them out!

If you can't do that, then Just forgive and forget, geezus ****ing hell, just continue playing the game and stop acting like children spitting a tantrum when you don't get your way..

It's a smeging disgrace!

Comfordor, I can assure you that BoS had no ID list of TLA. Believe me when I say that you would have felt a 18-20 man inc for hours if we had it. In fact, before spies we had nine members of XXX pegged down as highly likely, another few as likely, and only Dr. Pepper as likely TLA. We were completely in the blind. Any inc you received from us were completely random.




Still avoiding that question Antney, why did they boost you?


Coon, in line with the response regarding why Lukey's target sent out:

Lukey rambling about not knowing why.
Dachi rambling about Lukey being boosted
why dont you ask the player?

why don't you go ask them? You obviously have the ID's - hell, you could've asked them the moment they sent?


On a more serious note, thanks to Coruba for standing up and shedding some light. Being at the receiving end of a bashing sucks, and it is easy to view the evidence in a skewered way when you're involved. A lot of the things on both sides here are circumstancial and could have other explanations. We've just seen one 'proof' (evidence) being just that.

On another note, I'm not denying the possibility that we have cheaters in BoS. It is within the realm of probability. As it is that any other alliance (including XXX) has cheaters within them. However, the evidence presented is not enough for me to say with certainty that there is cheating going on in any alliance.

My comment above about asking the player was in relation to the accusation that lukey had a multi farm. We did actually ask that player why he sent his yobs out and the response we received was that he "sent them on an attack" - seems rediculous but thats what he said.

If you are asking why i didnt message the ids that boosted antney? I did message them. Nil response received.

I still maintain that the incident whereby antney was boosted and the evidence of "cass" and "brandi" having ids in TLA are yet to be addressed properly.

If you have not made a reasonable response in this forums then i hope for your sake that an appropriate investigation was completed in private. Sure as **** would look mighty silly if a game mod amongst others was found to be harboring cheats and defending their actions...
 

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I will add again to the above that lukey failed to land on the above mentioned "land farm" on numerous occassions
 

Gazzy

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Coon, I've not seen the evidence of their multis. You sent me a picture of Recons Facebook but nothing more. And you haven't provided any information on Antney being boosted, apart from stating that it happened (and the 3 ID boost above, which has been explained). Please provide the facts / information and we will discuss and / or investigate. But stop throwing baseless accusations around.

Also, thanks to Coruba and Sith for adding clarity to the situation.
 

tolly12

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Sith: I actually think we should all rape "Phill MCrackin" and vent all are anger and frustration out on him ;) ........I'll send first haha
 

tolly12

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Sith: so any ways who wants me next round? Hahaha


Guess it's gonna be fairly hard to get into a alliance from now on, due to a honest mistake hahahaha
 

Coon1

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Coon, I've not seen the evidence of their multis. You sent me a picture of Recons Facebook but nothing more. And you haven't provided any information on Antney being boosted, apart from stating that it happened (and the 3 ID boost above, which has been explained). Please provide the facts / information and we will discuss and / or investigate. But stop throwing baseless accusations around.

Also, thanks to Coruba and Sith for adding clarity to the situation.

Gazzy i sent you a ss of inc on lukey where 3 ids boosted. These ids werent from your alliance, did not have geos/wheelies. These 3 ids were mailed but declined to respond as to why they were attacking lukey with no geos/wheelies. They were covering Antneys LT (keep in mind he had range LET only).

So without bringing up past rounds as evidence, i showed you recons wifes name and antney has confirmed in here that his wifes name is brandi.

TLA confirmed in a mail to the xxx hq that ids with the names "cass" and "brandi" had both been through their alliance. A copy of which could be obtained of someone from xxx looked through the hq mail - as i no longer have an id i cannot supply.

Its all there gazzy, i have nothing further to add.

We have fought and argued all day about this without any real clarification on these 2 points. No amount of further talk will change if/how you view the evidence. It is completely up to you, dachi etc as to what you do with this.

I think the greater community left here would be very disappointed if no action was taken if these fools were cheating. For mine, yours and dachis reputation would be forever tarnished.
 

No-Dachi

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So Coon, you have two players with rather common names who has been in an alliance. Then two members of another alliance who is married to people of the same name. Is it possible that they are the same people? Yes. Is it certain? No. Even if they turned out to be the same, does it indicate a probable cooperation? Yes, it is likely that a wife would support her husband in a game. However, that does not turn probable support into probable cheating. If you were making multies, why would you make one with a name that could be tied to you?

I hope this answers your question.

When looking at evidence you always have to look for alternate explanations, and not fall into the trap of confirmation bias.
 

Leeroy

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So Coon, you have two players with rather common names who has been in an alliance. Then two members of another alliance who is married to people of the same name. Is it possible that they are the same people? Yes. Is it certain? No. Even if they turned out to be the same, does it indicate a probable cooperation? Yes, it is likely that a wife would support her husband in a game. However, that does not turn probable support into probable cheating. If you were making multies, why would you make one with a name that could be tied to you?

I hope this answers your question.

When looking at evidence you always have to look for alternate explanations, and not fall into the trap of confirmation bias.

I mailed Zera in account mail. I said to him you know that people are playing in TLA who aren't actually who they say they are. His response was..." I know, but we aren't olaying FTW so I don't care"
PM me on whatsapp and I'll happily send you another screen shot
 

Gazzy

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Coon, you say we have not addressed the boosting issue, but please see my post @ 7:24 two pages back. It coveres it quite comprehensively.

On your other point, I refer to Dachis response. Also to the fact that you have not shown this anywhere. I'm sorry but I'm unwilling to simply take your word for it. So unless you provide the evidence, I can't / won't address it. Flaming us on here won't change that.
 

Coon1

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So Coon, you have two players with rather common names who has been in an alliance. Then two members of another alliance who is married to people of the same name. Is it possible that they are the same people? Yes. Is it certain? No. Even if they turned out to be the same, does it indicate a probable cooperation? Yes, it is likely that a wife would support her husband in a game. However, that does not turn probable support into probable cheating. If you were making multies, why would you make one with a name that could be tied to you?

I hope this answers your question.

When looking at evidence you always have to look for alternate explanations, and not fall into the trap of confirmation bias.

The most likely explaination is that they are multis of recon and antney - im sure most would agree.

Also need to consider how recon got the SS from sith that was sent to r3?

If you had played with recon or antney any time in the past 5 round you would not be affording them this charity
 
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