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Just use Assasin perk and UAV's are useless ...
No. Because not everyone else on my team will use assassin. While i might die less, i still want my team to win.
tim,

Have you tried putting an agoc on your sniper instead (use a differemt recticle imo as the regular agoc isnt very clear)it aims as quickly as quickscoping, its easier to see, and use close up, and you dont need to use quick draw, this frees up assassin. (and depending if you play td or w/e)I now have specialist on every class. as i get 2 kills and i get quick draw back. I have the sitrep pro. and 90% of the time im in games where no one uses deadsilence they all use stalker. and its awsome.
I just like normal scope :)
And I use sitrep all the time. Its funny how in MW2 i almost never used it, but in this one i use it all the time. No commando is good. You can still lunge, but not stupidly far.
as for shooting uavs im the only one i see using a stinger. and its awsome with the specialist perlk. as my 3rd and final perk is scavenger which comes on just as i run out of bullets on assult rifle, perfect timing I dont need to ever switch weapons. my other perk depens on class whether its stalker or steady aim or shiz. i shoot an enemy strafing run.(take out the 2nd and 4th heli's once they pass) and boom 5 perks ty. and you can level the perks that you have on when using specialist. i have stalker pro and scavanger pro having never had them on my actual class just as perks. and 8 kills where you get all the perks. you feel invincible. only bad thing is you only unlock the version of the perk you have. but thats kinda okay i think

final thing. if looking for the enmy uav id suggest if you dont see it on first take(they seem higher in this mw). aim in with the stinger and spin around. it makes the lock on beep even through buildings.bingo.

not to mention the stinger is strong. 3 shots takes down an ac130, 2 take down an osprey gunner, pavelow, reaper, overwatch or even an enemy support air drop (from the osprey) which is easy to do because it spends ages flying around. and 1 for everything else. and a direct hit (one that would have hit without lockon) can sometimes take them down in one. (except ac10) only disadvantage, its also the biggest and can be seen sticking out above you so dont try hding behind dumsters or walls, it just wont work

I had scavenger as third unlocked perk for the same reason. But i didnt know that the stinger locked on through buildings, thanks for the tip!

The thing is, im basically being forced to use stinger/assassin. I want my classes to vary my playstyle, not compensate for the support package which everyone uses. In MW2 it didnt really matter what everyone else was doing, UAVs were a fairly rare nuisance. I could play how i wanted to. I could run and gun with assault rifle or sniper, sprint around with a SMG, go full stealth, etc.

However, if i want to run around with a sniper, if i miss a close range quickscope, which is often, because im using a bolt action, i would instantly switch to pistol. However, now i have a stinger, so this habit only gets me killed.
 

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Is it just me, or does the game play way way faster than mw1/2? I don't know if it's the map layouts or a different damage/health balance or just a lag issue, but I swear people move faster and die easier. I seem to spend the entire time twitching around, 'cos if you don't kill someone the instant you see them they'll instantly kill you.

But they've given me faster melee with riot shield, so I'm happy.
 

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Just use Assasin perk and UAV's are useless ...
No. Because not everyone else on my team will use assassin. While i might die less, i still want my team to win.

Which is probally the same thing all the other people think ...
If you can't carry your team in any gametype then you just have to practice more ;P
You're playing td, demo etc right? :( Bad game types full stop unless you have a premade team of atleast 2/3 of you or can go 30-5.
 

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You're probably the only person in your team usually who wants the "team" to win Tim ;)

TD is just one of those playlists where people go to mount kills for themselves and gain their killstreaks.
What I do: Use Recon, Assassin and whatever for the 3rd perk. Use the 2 attachments, usually extra mags and a silencer. Then you have enough ammo should you go on a long streak and the perks to stay hidden
 

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I seem to spend the entire time twitching around, 'cos if you don't kill someone the instant you see them they'll instantly kill you.

But they've given me faster melee with riot shield, so I'm happy.

Enough said. Can't be bothered to play the game as a result of that. Booo.:?
 

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I seem to spend the entire time twitching around, 'cos if you don't kill someone the instant you see them they'll instantly kill you.

But they've given me faster melee with riot shield, so I'm happy.

Enough said. Can't be bothered to play the game as a result of that. Booo.:?

As a result of me battering you into submission with .50cal-proof plastic even faster? :D
 

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tim once i get my msr in gold(snipers take longer than assault rifles :() and go back to playing properly, you can play TD with me!
ill be your stinger B*tch, and then you dont have to worry. ill be taking the uav's out for you :p

the absoloutly most frustrating thing for me on team deathmatch is the better you play the lamer the team you are put with. I even have screen shot /video where ive gone 30-5 the first 5-6 deaths were when i was trying to snipe on seatown. then i went with my ak47 red dot into the middle of the map around the buildings got a 25 kill streak(thanks to sitrep pro) clicked to launch the hidden moab bomb killstreak. and the game ended before it detonated, and we lost. I was like wtf how did we lose.

every one else on the team was negative, some guys were like 3kills for 21 deaths. & I still havent seen a moab go off as a result. now thats annoying. being put with R-tards because you have a few good games. Still better than on demolition, I like to play it but some people just go for kills to try and get thier streaks and dont bother planting or diffusing the bombs. at least on team deathmatch if they play selfishly they are atleast trying to reach the objective and win. i always feel i am the only one actually trying to plant the bomb in those games.

As for SnD i dont think im quick enough or stealthy enough. i may have to try it again one time, but i normally get one kill then die, or just die, not got the patients for it. if i want to play that sort of game ill just stick on counterstriker.
 

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I seem to spend the entire time twitching around, 'cos if you don't kill someone the instant you see them they'll instantly kill you.

But they've given me faster melee with riot shield, so I'm happy.

Enough said. Can't be bothered to play the game as a result of that. Booo.:?

As a result of me battering you into submission with .50cal-proof plastic even faster? :D

Exactly!!
 

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I play TD all the time. It is where i can get the best connection games consistently, simply due to the fact more people play this than anything else.

Is it just me, or does the game play way way faster than mw1/2? I don't know if it's the map layouts or a different damage/health balance or just a lag issue, but I swear people move faster and die easier. I seem to spend the entire time twitching around, 'cos if you don't kill someone the instant you see them they'll instantly kill you.

But they've given me faster melee with riot shield, so I'm happy.

Ive actually been thinking the same thing every day i play. People pop around a corner, you line up their body in the crosshairs and pull the trigger, almost instantly, and then youre dead. I can understand this if it was from when youre sprinting which slows your aiming, but it happens even when walking.

Then when you watch the killcam they could see you for like 1-2 more seconds than what was apparent earlier.

And there is also when you put 5 bullets into someones body and not a single hit marker appears. And then you die.

I just wanna play MW2
 

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that even happens on mw2 though i find. you watch the kill cam, and on thier kill cam they poped around the corner and creamed you and you only get 2 or 3 shots off. but on your screen you unloaded 4 or 5 and expected them to drop down dead.

why console versions cant have dedicated servers i dont know. then you dont need to connect to some one hosting from eastcost america, and lagg like crazy, or worry about host rage quiting
 

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that even happens on mw2 though i find. you watch the kill cam, and on thier kill cam they poped around the corner and creamed you and you only get 2 or 3 shots off. but on your screen you unloaded 4 or 5 and expected them to drop down dead.

why console versions cant have dedicated servers i dont know. then you dont need to connect to some one hosting from eastcost america, and lagg like crazy, or worry about host rage quiting

i was comparing MW3 to MW2. As far as im concerned, its worse with MW3 at the moment. I rarely had lag issues with MW2 which was much better than COD4 i think. I almost never had an issue with lag playing MW2.
 

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Having gone back to MW2, it's so so much more enjoyable.

And it's got nothing to do with me not being very good at MW3, not knowing the maps, not giving it a chance etc etc. On both MW2 and MW3 I tend to be at or near the top of the scoreboard most games.

It's just that in MW2, if I kill someone it tends to be because I've out-played the enemy, and if someone kills me it's because they've out-played me. On MW3 if I die it tends to be because someone's respawned behind me, and if I kill them it's got more to do with me lagging less than the other guy, and not alot to do with being a better shot. Aiming seems to be quite low down on the list of factors affecting who wins. Makes the game rather un-fulfilling. Might as well just roll a dice and skip playing the game.
 

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Spawns are pretty awful. The other day I had one where I was in the corner of the map having just cleared it out, and was on a killstreak of about 8, and some guy spawned behind me in the corner and killed me :/

And another one where I spawned in a little alcove thing, and 2 seconds later, just as I was walking off, an enemy spawned in exactly the same spot and killed me.

It does seem like if you survive the first 5 seconds of a life you've got a good chance of going on a spree, but half the time when you spawn you die immediately.

I remember spawns on MW2 being pretty bad as well though. If I'm going to go back and play any old CoD game it'll be CoD4.
 

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I played MW2 yesterday, and it was immediately 10x better. I tried sniping, and while MW3 has quick scoping, scoping with the intervention was just sooo good. And none of this 1 million UAVs bullshit. And why the **** did they decide to whack a stealth bomber point NOT-streak in the support package? And yes, being killed by people spawning behind you is gay (although that happened sometimes in the other CODs too)

Im hoping when the novelty of MW3 wears off, more people will go back to MW2 (i tried for like 5min to find a game to join yesterday before giving up and playing MW3.

Oh yeah, and i played a game of COD4, and while i didnt do good the one game i played, it was definitely better than MW3. (but i still like MW2 more than COD4 i think)
 

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havent played since skyrim got unwrapped from its cellophane, but it wasnt to bad when i played it last i was able to quickscope with agoc msr, able to run and gun with ump and hammer sight, able to take some names with the ak47. and i was even leveling a shotgun (spas) DO NOT USE SHOTGUNS!!! like literately the range/power is awful. I could kill some one quicker with an smg. that aside i can play however i like with any guns silenced or loud.

though i do have sitrep pro and a headset and that makes all the diffference. you learn to know where they are coming from. not only with the footsteps but the level. if they are about to burst through the door or are running up an escelator. i can snipe on any level thanks to agoc + sitrep. and not many use dead silence since they all love that stalker perk. i strongyl sugest trying it. havent been snuck up on in a while. though the annoying thins is when they aim in the persons foot steps arent so loud. so people with stalker that aim in whilst movig you cant hear quite as well. but still better than hearing everyones footsteps.

i dont see how you cannot enjoy it or prefer the other ones. its on par in my mind. the only guns i hate (only because i dont use them) are those duel wield fmg guns (first ones on the machine pistols list) they can start firing and kill a person who was already shooting at you quicker than any other gun, accuracy and power and firerate, just OTT. needs serious nerf. and the scorpian should be better!

tbh the scorpian hasnt been the same since the first one. thats the only reason id play the first MW. for that gun, and the accuracy clarity of its iron sights, it was awsome with bandboiler. i could head shot with it on the otherside of the map, and i annhialated people. particularly the missile silo level. the amount of snipers id butcher was sexy. thats all i miss from the old games, that and danger close perk
 

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I prefer the simplicity of CoD4 over the ridiculous over-complication of MW2/MW3. The emphasis on killstreaks and customisations haven't made it more tactical, it has just turned it into a cluster**** of complete randomness.

I've played all the CoD games since CoD4 and they just seem to be going further and further away from what made that game brilliant.

MW3 is a fun enough game to keep people playing it for a while, but it won't have the longevity of CoD4. Personally, I'm pretty sure I will get tired of spawnkills, campers, akimbos, poor maps and ridiculous killstreaks.
 
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