willymchilybily
Landscape Designer
dishonourable attacking:
Ive had some one give me an earful because i attacked them as a puppet at 30% range. and its dishonourable and disgusting and i make them sick and im everything wrong with the game. The irony is he was solo. SO i decided to explain this to all those that might go on the forum and arent completely short on braincells. Attacking some one that is solo at 30% is not horrible or wretched or dishonourable. as such. if they are solo. this is because the amount of troops that can be sent at them is based on there AR. let me explain further
if some one is 70% of me im around 143% of them.
if some one has no visible news (577ticks) thier AR is 21% approx.
at this level of ar (the maximum a player can be 100% certain some one has without spying regularly or previously the target) you can send....
100-21 = 79 .......0.79*1.45 = 1.1455 times thier score.
some one attacking at 70% range being 1.43 x thier targets size, sending 1.1455x thier targets score. then what they are sending is.....
1.1455/1.43 = 80% of thier score. if you ignore the £150-200billion score you get from fully teching that means any one with 20% land fat or less can send at you enough units to not trigger, and kill you perfectly honourably at thier 70% range.
so the point i'm trying to make is when you attack a solo the size you are compared to them does not limit the amount of troops you can send. (assuming <20% land fat and >21% AR) the limit is entirely based on thier AR. so my attack was equal to that of which some one attacking the same target at thier 70% range. for sake of argument the limit is virtually entirely for the allies as its not like at 70% range you attack a solo but dont have enough troops to send and thats how the battle is made even because you dont have enough men to kill them cleanly...it simply isnt the case.
the fact that the system for H/F judges the score difference between the targets as a very rough approximation of honour has no bearing really when you attack solos and how devistating or mean or dishonourable your attack is. the game counts it as dishonourable but there is no difference in terms of the size of the army sent. and although it allows you to send more mobs out the game counters this affect with eta mods to keep it equally encouraging to attack at the low ranges or higher ranges.
so to those people that think bashing means attacking at 30% range. and send message out to thier agressors like this one :
I say please just learn to understand the game a bit better and try allied play to fully understand what bashing really is.
i thought id put it in discussion to see if other people think actually when you attack solos the attack range is almost unimportant and really doesnt affect the honourability of the attack even if the simple h/f system uses the same yard stick. because the amount of troops that can be sent has already been limited from the AR.
Or am i wrong and yes although the same army and same mob could be sent by someone hitting 70% as by some one hitting 30% range on the same solo, the act of doing it is somehow dishonourable and i'm just not seeing it?
Ive had some one give me an earful because i attacked them as a puppet at 30% range. and its dishonourable and disgusting and i make them sick and im everything wrong with the game. The irony is he was solo. SO i decided to explain this to all those that might go on the forum and arent completely short on braincells. Attacking some one that is solo at 30% is not horrible or wretched or dishonourable. as such. if they are solo. this is because the amount of troops that can be sent at them is based on there AR. let me explain further
if some one is 70% of me im around 143% of them.
if some one has no visible news (577ticks) thier AR is 21% approx.
at this level of ar (the maximum a player can be 100% certain some one has without spying regularly or previously the target) you can send....
100-21 = 79 .......0.79*1.45 = 1.1455 times thier score.
some one attacking at 70% range being 1.43 x thier targets size, sending 1.1455x thier targets score. then what they are sending is.....
1.1455/1.43 = 80% of thier score. if you ignore the £150-200billion score you get from fully teching that means any one with 20% land fat or less can send at you enough units to not trigger, and kill you perfectly honourably at thier 70% range.
so the point i'm trying to make is when you attack a solo the size you are compared to them does not limit the amount of troops you can send. (assuming <20% land fat and >21% AR) the limit is entirely based on thier AR. so my attack was equal to that of which some one attacking the same target at thier 70% range. for sake of argument the limit is virtually entirely for the allies as its not like at 70% range you attack a solo but dont have enough troops to send and thats how the battle is made even because you dont have enough men to kill them cleanly...it simply isnt the case.
the fact that the system for H/F judges the score difference between the targets as a very rough approximation of honour has no bearing really when you attack solos and how devistating or mean or dishonourable your attack is. the game counts it as dishonourable but there is no difference in terms of the size of the army sent. and although it allows you to send more mobs out the game counters this affect with eta mods to keep it equally encouraging to attack at the low ranges or higher ranges.
so to those people that think bashing means attacking at 30% range. and send message out to thier agressors like this one :
muppet said:`I think it was an absolutely filthy thing to do right at the round end, considering it is the fifth time this rounsd you specifically targeted me. Creatures like you are what has killed this once great game -- you disgust me.me said:muppet said:
im actually after the bush tyrant profile award too im not quite as dishonourable as lordnikon. so im second to it... hence the overly dishonourable play. Im sorry for attacking you but at least it was limited by your AR
im just after the stats and profile awards. i think puppets is kind of a given that you have to be pretty dishonourable if you are tryin to bribe one of every unit as well for compulsive collector. or you have to be low down. because any target with a unit u need is a viable target... and yeah attacking at like 30% gives you so many more targets. at 60% id only ever hit poms and if the odd person had pure sorcs/golems/petrol bombers. i might try it. or attack with allie mates.
anyway being not in the top 50 i hope you didnt mind to much about the attack now the rounds ending.
best of luck for next round
I say please just learn to understand the game a bit better and try allied play to fully understand what bashing really is.
i thought id put it in discussion to see if other people think actually when you attack solos the attack range is almost unimportant and really doesnt affect the honourability of the attack even if the simple h/f system uses the same yard stick. because the amount of troops that can be sent has already been limited from the AR.
Or am i wrong and yes although the same army and same mob could be sent by someone hitting 70% as by some one hitting 30% range on the same solo, the act of doing it is somehow dishonourable and i'm just not seeing it?
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