No sir, I believe you missed the point.
Sir? No, I believe you're just being you again. If you actually open your eyes and READ next time, maybe you'll see perfectly clear of the reasoning behind my post.
I did read your post. I believe this was it.
You don't think it's fair on those who have been able to play?
With almost every post you make you sound like such a dumbass, so it's perfectly fair for those who were unable to load up the login page to be raped/farmed? That is fair to you?
You missed the point entirely, as usual.
No I don't think it's fair on those who were able to play.
I think you'd find people who would disagree with your opinion as to my posts. Thanks for flaming. It is perfectly fair that those who were able to play kept playing. Yes it is fair to me.
Really. I didn't miss the point. You have four sentences there, I got your point. You think it was unfair for us to keep playing, and you think I'm an idiot and you think I missed the point "as usual".
So tell me Zaheen, what was the reasoning behind your post that I missed?
The risks were the same for both sides who were attacking or defending. The only advantage we had was the advantage that any attacker has, the initiative. We had members sending who were unable to send due to the server stuff, we had people lose units due to the server stutters, we had people almost die when they got retalled due to being unable to send out. There were inherent risks in attacking when you're not sure you can recall. We were lucky, others weren't so lucky. It's perfectly fair that since the game was working for me (on and off, mind you) I was allowed to keep playing.
Risks same on both sides? You see SOME OF US AROUND HERE don't frantically refresh the page for hours on end whilst the server is down, instead would rather go and watch some tv, a dvd, or go play some sports, another game perhaps.
Personally, I'd understand the server was having problems and being the cool awesome fair player I am, I wouldn't take advantage of this and kill someone, it's just not cool. Requires no skill. End of.
I wasn't frantically refreshing the page for hours. I was luckier than most and had a more or less fine connection throughout the time I was on; since I was one of a few who had a reliable connection, I stuck around to play defence in case we were under attack. Sometimes it didn't work, sometimes it did. I would hit refresh every few ticks in between watching Episodes of House MD and Big Bang theory. Feel free to come visit and check my PC history for the appropriate days if you don't believe me
I also played some Alpha Centauri while waiting for attacks to go down. Stop telling me what I was and wasn't doing on that day because you simply have no ****ing clue.
You make it sound like i was deliberately scheming to kill people who i knew couldn't get online. That's totally ridiculous. I didn't know who was able to get online or who couldn't. It would've been nice but it certainly wasn't the case. I was just playing the game as most people would've continued to do. Congratulations on being super awesome cool; you are probably the only player who would've stopped playing. Kudos.
My sympathies go out to those who were unable to get on, but I don't see why it should stop me from playing. I highly doubt if the circumstances had been reversed we would have received mercy due to being unable to reliably get online.
Good one, you give as much sympathy as George Bush gives to Iraq, after the bombs he planned there.
Better some sympathy than none
What does George Bush have to do with Bushtarion? How do you plan bombs?
Thanks Zaheen, for another invective filled post; next time, try to express your opinion without letting your unnatural hatred boil through.
Or else what? It's impossible to reply in a civil manner with you. However you'll notice I do reply in such a tone with normal and nice humane players.
I've never noticed you post civil responses anywhere. You simply get hateful with anyone who seems to disagree with you, and whom you cannot bully into silence. Shame on you. CF is one of the nicest, most competent players in this game and you have poured out several pages worth of vile words at him simply because of a disagreement of opinion. Doesn't sound like you're a very normal, nice or humane player to me.Perhaps if you treated others around you in a nicer manner, you would be treated nicely in return. Does tit for tat, mean anything to you? The proof is in the pudding
The effort involved to get people online who were struggling, work out an attack plan, make sure everyone sent right etas/ticks etc. A lot of hard work went into trying to use our time as effectively as possible. We didn't just attack players who couldn't get online (how could we know who could/couldn't get on?) And what are you on about we "wouldn't be punished with a rollback?" We sure as hell would. A day's worth of attacking, planning, time etc all wasted because some people were having server issues? Pfft. Again, if the situation was reversed there's no doubt in my mind you guys would be arguing the opposite position
Struggling to work out an attack plan?! You idiot, the situation would never be in reverse for any talented player, who doesn't take advantages of this type of play.
Again with the insults, so unnecessary! Just state your opinion without being so antagonistic and people are more likely to treat you with the respect you seem to think you deserve. Anyways, you don't seem to understand the difficulties inherent in planning any attack at all on an alliance scale, let alone one when you're not entirely certain everyone is going to be able to send. It's difficult, take my word for it (or don't I don't care).
There was no advantage taken, apart from the initiative of attacking. In the reverse situation (assuming Aphalla had the guts to get going an attack) we'd have been in a terrible situation. Or if res had decided to hit us then etc etc. We were just
lucky in that nobody did attack us on a truly serious scale, with exception of a retal or two. I highly doubt that we weren't massed because Res and Aphalla were sitting there going "Oh, server issues, I definitely won't attack anyone, that just wouldn't be fair". Complete and utter bullshit.
Zaheen, you might be willing to avoid attacking during server issues, but I'd be willing to bet you'd be the only one. Also, if you and your ally were actually still in competition for rank 1, things might've occurred differently in your alliance. I'm not saying they would have, but it's a possibility worth considering, I think.
And again, for the rollback, what about those players who weren't rank 1/2/3? Are you going to punish them because you think it was unfair that events totally out of control of the game, playerbase, creator led to some people being unable to get on? Bullshit. That would be the far greater of the two evils we're discussing here imo.
Rollback is a rollback, it's suppose to be there for the MAJORITY of players affected, clearly to balance out the unfairness. But it really doesn't matter now, so there is no point you arguing something I posted at the time. Trust you to quote everything I say.
How do you know the majority of players were affected negatively? As far as I can see, the only people complaining in this thread are you and Aphalla members. That does not constitute a majority. I only quoted what you said because I disagreed with it, and
at the time it was a relevant topic of discussion. Stop taking your own quotations out of context.
Razorwolf you're wasting your time debating with these idiotic...fools.
Seriously, just leave it you won't win or do yourself any favours - you already made your point and you're right. You don't need verification from these guys.
You may not need verification from us, but looking at the situation from another viewpoint certainly helps. We're allowed to have differing opinions, it's what keeps us healthy.