Sleepmode

[Its not personalits Bush]

This 3 tick waiting period is stupid...

Sm is suppose to protect you but it actually does the opposite,it give te attacker a free shot at you with nothing you can do about it.

(doesn't really concern ally people/active nap)

The only time I've actually been hit hard is going into sleep and a man must get rest at some point.It's hard to mix up sm times too when you have incoming alot.

It should be instant.Silly rule.

(No offence Zaheen,I like a good bribe attack-well done )

 

[Zaheen]

This 3 tick waiting period is stupid...

It should be instant.Silly rule.

Then people like me could hide in sleep mode instantly and never ever be killed, ever. That would be even more silly.

You didn't have to send out and make it obvious? Or you could just leave yourself wide open each night like I do (and for me it's worse as I'm RPG, solo, and both of my PNaps are in sleep).

You've got a bounty, you can't blame sleep mode because you like to bash lol.

And don't worry I'm not offended, rather upset by it, t'was a repeat attack and it meant that I didn't bounty £350 bil at the same time, look;

Tick 1
Distracted: 2,426 [£29,390,800] friendlies distracted.
Died: 10,249,727 [£75,267,242,000] friendlies dead. 3,247,133 [£190,082,581,000] enemies dead.
Bribed: 30,110,551 [£132,522,833,800] friendlies bribed.

You gained 40,371 effectiveness.
You gained 9.67 fame.
You lost 69.14 honour.
You earned £10,480,184,586 bounty.
You will soon be receiving £9,805,160,400 insurance.

Tick 2
Distracted: 1,280 [£21,913,800] friendlies distracted.
Died: 5,956,203 [£63,599,276,200] friendlies dead. 8,857,632 [£152,021,544,100] enemies dead.
Bribed: 15,911,754 [£119,017,764,400] friendlies bribed. 19,240,944 [£311,329,789,800] enemies bribed.
Converted: 1,247 [£52,374,000] friendlies converted. 46,706 [£1,961,652,000] enemies converted.

You gained 128,670 effectiveness.
You gained 12.60 fame.
You lost 70.23 honour.
You earned £7,792,618,677 bounty.
You will soon be receiving £9,343,489,200 insurance.

Tick 3
Distracted: 2,459,205 [£15,189,330,800] friendlies distracted. 6,530,386 [£21,269,749,200] enemies distracted.
Disabled: 1,572,431 [£24,710,390,800] friendlies disabled. 13,131,127 [£44,090,535,300] enemies disabled.
Died: 264,042 [£8,985,448,000] friendlies dead. 3,300,593 [£117,650,771,300] enemies dead.
Bribed: 385,363 [£11,209,106,000] friendlies bribed. 3,085,889 [£131,670,119,000] enemies bribed.
Converted: 3,929 [£165,018,000] friendlies converted. 46,917 [£1,970,514,000] enemies converted.

You stole 75 land. [23] tree. [43] bush. [4] flower. [5] grass. [0] uncultivated.
You gained 131,477 effectiveness.
You gained 14.22 fame.
You lost 68.56 honour.
You earned £6,065,714,442 bounty.
You will soon be receiving £1,710,715,200 insurance.

I would have stolen over 2,000 acres too if it hadn't been for your Hypnos bribing my Hippy/Yobs (I sent them just to flak whatever you left home).

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Just luck on my part really, I had no idea what you left home. I knew I wouldn't trigger - could have cut down losses with more flak but I got a little distracted and didn't have time to plan (impossible to plan anyway, didn't know what you had there, had to take damage if I wanted to try and bribe whatever it was).

 

[Max]

The 3 tick waiting period is important because it prevents a player from being invulnerable.

You can always send out before hitting sleep if you don't want to die, you just lose a little land instead. It's always going to be a trade-off though!

And actually it does concern allied people. Allied people often die the worst going into sleep mode, as has been demonstrated time and time again. Invulnerability in sleep must come with some risk attached, else it's abusable.

I like encouraging death and more battles all round, rather than stagnation and running away

 

[Its not personalits Bush]

I think that's fair though,if your good enough not to be killed then why should you be?

It was either that or all my men die,I'm sure you would of sent slot more if my whole army was home :/

 

[Zaheen]

I think that's fair though,if your good enough not to be killed then why should you be?

It was either that or all my men die,I'm sure you would of sent slot more if my whole army was home :/

Who, harmless little me? (",)

It's not that I'm good enough not to be killed, I've had a few 150M / 75M pure SA LET rushes on me and I've lost 2-3 trillion each time. It's the fact that I don't care, never have done and never will.

If somebody wants to kill a solo RPG in their sleep with no PNap support that's their choice. It doesn't mean they're better than me, it means their route is better and it means I'm likely to lose, but lose what, some pixel troops?

What happens after that? I have more targets and have more fun, as Max says and as I've been saying for over a decade. Playing to win this game is not fun at all, it's so much more fun to kill and die, than it is to run and hide and then be killed later down the line.

Don't get me wrong, if I'm online and about to be creamed I will fight them as I see fit. I choose when I die, I choose when I want somebody to kill me. I could easily hit sleep - but I choose not to, it's sign of defeat! Sometimes I hit sleep to stop a certain person killing me, or to make sure I have a nice army to kill a certain person, but I don't make a habit of it, I generally don't care that much.

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Battle Report - Attacking X [X]
[range] 30,000,000 allied RPG Trooper attacked, killing 21,924,077 hostile staff.
[range] 666 allied Striker attacked, killing 387 hostile staff.
[range] 666 allied Terrorist attacked, killing 4,041 hostile staff.
[range] 248,255,135 hostile Cybernetic Warrior attacked, killing 30,001,337 allied staff.

Died: 30,001,337 [£1,680,095,249,000] friendlies dead. 21,928,505 [£1,172,045,824,600] enemies dead.

You gained 1,909,679 effectiveness.
You gained 24.28 fame.
You gained 17.60 honour.
You earned £1,432,952,660,847 bounty.
You will soon be receiving £336,019,047,600 insurance.

Battle Report - Attacking X [X]
[middle] 25,000,000 allied RPG Trooper attacked, killing 16,863,006 hostile staff.
[middle] 20,138,893 hostile Cybernetic Warrior attacked, killing 138,935,898 allied staff.
[middle] 17,096,749 allied Shock Trooper attacked, killing 10,804,224 hostile staff.
[middle] 2,449,422 hostile Tyrant Drone attacked, killing 69,299,302 allied staff.

Died: 208,235,200 [£1,433,949,950,800] friendlies dead. 27,667,230 [£2,078,628,746,600] enemies dead.

You gained 3,139,408 effectiveness.
You gained 47.60 fame.
You gained 45.88 honour.
You earned £712,661,983,238 bounty.
You will soon be receiving £199,209,929,400 insurance.

Battle Report - Attacking X [X]
[range] 50,000,000 allied RPG Trooper attacked, killing 2,116,670 hostile staff.
[range] 15,000,000 allied Sniper attacked, killing 11,372,960 hostile staff.
[range] 336,510,370 hostile Marine attacked, killing 65,000,000 allied staff.

Died: 65,000,000 [£3,550,000,000,000] friendlies dead. 13,489,630 [£660,991,870,000] enemies dead.

You gained 1,699,527 effectiveness.
You gained 20.68 fame.
You gained 62.06 honour.
You earned £594,892,683,000 bounty.
You will soon be receiving £710,000,000,000 insurance.

I suicide often, ya win some and ya lose some - but that won't stop me trying again.

(I only lost so badly on the last one because I was lied to and went AFK to take a shower, but that's besides the point). I got over it a few hours later.

 

[Yochoko]

uhhhhhhhh... why would you always want the game to convenience you instead of just playing it and in it by following its rules and mechanism?

i know it's upsetting, frustrating, enraging(? dunno personally :X), and so soooooooo saddening (very much personally) when people caught you in sleep. it depends on lots of luck most of the time, and if not, there's someone out there watching you if you make sleep mode a habit and you hit around the same time every day.

i've gone through lots of 'getting caught in sleep mode'. when i was in top 20 as a solo, i was hitting sleep mode every night, and got caught often enough and died lotsssssss. and a few rounds ago, some top ally (probably rank 2) people wanted to catch me and silence in sleep and they sent at us with a few people rolling over and over, not giving us the right timing to hit sleep mode. so we stayed up till 4-5am our time, intensely 'playing' bush every tick. then, probably they got bored, found other more interesting things to do, or gave up. we could find the possible right timing and hit sm. we didn't whine or complain about the game or specifically about sleep mode making us vulnerable for 3 ticks, though. we accept that fact we are open to any danger as well as any defense for 3 ticks. people catching you in sleep is playing fair. all the sad feelings are for you to deal with and overcome with!

i think that you just need to experience more of this 'getting caught in sleep mode'. then, you'll come to accept it!! even with some tears!!


@Max, you can lose MANY lands by being caught in sleep mode. they can wave for lands. i think iamsmart said possible 10 incs somewhere... but my memory can be faulty!

 

[Max]

@Max, you can lose MANY lands by being caught in sleep mode. they can wave for lands. i think iamsmart said possible 10 incs somewhere... but my memory can be faulty!

WOW. Now that I would love to see.

I guess:

1 ) eta 3 thief sent same tick sleep mode has been hit
2 ) eta 3 thief sent 1 tick after sleep mode has been hit
3 ) eta 5 geos sent same tick sleep mode has been hit
4 ) eta 5 geos sent 1 tick after sleep mode has been hit
5 ) eta 5 geos sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
6 ) eta 7 geos sent 1 tick after sleep mode has been hit
7 ) eta 7 geos sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
8 ) eta 8 geos sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
9 ) eta 8 geos with a +1 modifier sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
10 ) eta 8 geos with a +2 modifier sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit

If someone did that on me after I sent out I would probably RQ FAIR POINT!

 

[Zaheen]

@Max, you can lose MANY lands by being caught in sleep mode. they can wave for lands. i think iamsmart said possible 10 incs somewhere... but my memory can be faulty!

WOW. Now that I would love to see.

I guess:

1 ) eta 3 thief sent same tick sleep mode has been hit
2 ) eta 3 thief sent 1 tick after sleep mode has been hit
3 ) eta 5 geos sent same tick sleep mode has been hit
4 ) eta 5 geos sent 1 tick after sleep mode has been hit
5 ) eta 5 geos sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
6 ) eta 7 geos sent 1 tick after sleep mode has been hit
7 ) eta 7 geos sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
8 ) eta 8 geos sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
9 ) eta 8 geos with a +1 modifier sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit
10 ) eta 8 geos with a +2 modifier sent 2 ticks after sleep mode has been hit

If someone did that on me after I sent out I would probably RQ FAIR POINT!

I doubt this would ever happen, but it could technically be 12, and would be amazing to watch.

Tick 1 - Adrenaline Rushes
Thief -2 (ETA 1)
Thief -1 (ETA 2)
Thief (ETA 3)
Geo -1 (ETA 4)
Geo (ETA 5)
Geo +1 (ETA 6)
Geo +2 (ETA 7)
Geo + Tractor + ETA 1 (ETA 8 )
Geo + Combine + ETA 1 (ETA 9)
Geo + Combine + ETA 2 (ETA 10)

Tick 2
Geo + Combine + ETA 2 (Predicted ETA 11)

Tick 3
Geo + Combine + ETA 2 (Predicted ETA 12)

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That's actually 12 sets of land.

Unless I am mistaken?

 

[Max]

You are correct Zaheen. Anyone willing to try it on me next round? I challenge you playerbase!

 

[Zaheen]

You are correct Zaheen. Anyone willing to try it on me next round? I challenge you playerbase!

Lmao, you would need 3 tiny Arsonist players all online at the same time, as well as players with Tractors/Combines from all score ranges.

F117s would help with the ETA as they have a base of 6.

And since you'd probably hit sleep mode 5 seconds before it ticks, that would knock out 1 potential land grab.

I think it's impossible unless it was a set up.

 

[Dimitar]

I think that's fair though,if your good enough not to be killed then why should you be?

Yeah, because it takes a significant amount of skill to send out your troops.



PS: Took a lot of willpower to ignore the grammar.

 

[Zaheen]

I think that's fair though,if your good enough not to be killed then why should you be?

Yeah, because it takes a significant amount of skill to send out your troops.
PS: Took a lot of willpower to ignore the grammar.

Dimitar, he was referring to me not hitting sleep at night, and actually going to sleep without PNap protection.

So sending out isn't really an option unless I'm online.