Dax
Hydroponics Developer
Have any of you supporting CRA ever see what it actually is? I'd never wish it upon anyone that isn't an absolute c* nt in this game.
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Bring back the CRA
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Have any of you supporting CRA ever see what it actually is? I'd never wish it upon anyone that isn't an absolute c* nt in this game.
alwaysnumb
Head Gardener
wtf is cra?
willymchilybily
Landscape Designer
i remeber cra but never having been affected by it i cant say whether it is good o bad. but it lasted half a round. so generally the scale is
reasonable ideas = 1 age
poor ideas = 2 rounds
crap ideas = 1 round
absoloutly ghastly ideas = <1 round
and by idea, i actuallly mean the outcome of the idea, not the concept. the theory may seem wounderful like 10-15man alliances for example. but in reality the unforseen consequences make the outcome of the suggestion unbareable.
no cra for me. just from remembering a general vibe felt by all the playerbase at the time of it just being too unfair. if anyone actually was in welshies/BW alliance or which ever virus alliance it was that got a CRA raping/inc can say they think its a good idea then ill run with it. but i highly doubt they will from my vague memory of it.
i would rather have facilites ingame to make it easier to form a resistance. but everything from global politics to suggestions of an active way to join in have failed. it seems it takes players not game mechanics to make a round fun. and bring about a good bit of competition.
reasonable ideas = 1 age
poor ideas = 2 rounds
crap ideas = 1 round
absoloutly ghastly ideas = <1 round
and by idea, i actuallly mean the outcome of the idea, not the concept. the theory may seem wounderful like 10-15man alliances for example. but in reality the unforseen consequences make the outcome of the suggestion unbareable.
no cra for me. just from remembering a general vibe felt by all the playerbase at the time of it just being too unfair. if anyone actually was in welshies/BW alliance or which ever virus alliance it was that got a CRA raping/inc can say they think its a good idea then ill run with it. but i highly doubt they will from my vague memory of it.
i would rather have facilites ingame to make it easier to form a resistance. but everything from global politics to suggestions of an active way to join in have failed. it seems it takes players not game mechanics to make a round fun. and bring about a good bit of competition.
nopjes
Head Gardener
If an alliance has won after a few hours then the other alliances don't deserve to win - so adding in CRA to screw over an alliance who clearly deserve to win more is just going to piss off that group of 20 people. How is this a good thing?
Jonny
Weeder
What would the point of a PoM route be if there was a landcap? No bounty + Landcap = No way to increase income after you hit the cap?
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
CRA - The CRA was a government army, much like anti-rape, just far more powerful.
If you look in the old manual, alot of the units are still there.
Units like Robotic Monstrosities, or Government Land Farmers - They are literally the best units the game can manufacture. They fired before everything [even AR units], and they destroyed anything that was left at home, then land farmers stole a ton of your land.
That's what CRA is - An unstoppable score and land cap.
Oh yeah - And it was Welshie that was rank 1 when they were around.
If you look in the old manual, alot of the units are still there.
Units like Robotic Monstrosities, or Government Land Farmers - They are literally the best units the game can manufacture. They fired before everything [even AR units], and they destroyed anything that was left at home, then land farmers stole a ton of your land.
That's what CRA is - An unstoppable score and land cap.
Oh yeah - And it was Welshie that was rank 1 when they were around.
Walking_Death
Harvester
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Personally, I would see it tuned down a lot, but the concept being in tact is what matters. Oh btw DaX, it isn't in the manual, sillyface
. You only see it during havoc when you hax Government HQ
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
Personally, I would see it tuned down a lot, but the concept being in tact is what matters. Oh btw DaX, it isn't in the manual, sillyface
That's it - I knew you could see it again somewhere at some obscure time.
Heheh, back when CRA was around there were a few times I died from it. Yes, it was a load of crap for us, having the government come in and kill people for getting too high up in score, but back then it was even more necessary (we had 4 allies completely bashing every single person that came within our 15% range... like 6 man waves minimum) Anyhow, I didn't really intend this to be a serious suggestion, but it's been a good read and has had a few other interesting ideas. CRA didn't destroy the entire alliance, it just picked a couple of IDs Azzer hated and then bashed them. I remember we had some pretty crazy battles with it.
I, personally, wouldn't want a land cap, but at the same time I do see a lot of benefits coming from it. It would be something I'd have to play with and see how it goes. Maybe we could have a big test PW with that idea?
Walking_Death
Harvester
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can it have my 4th mil branch in it?
I'd like the idea, but I don't really think Volcanic Beasts of Doom are necessary...
Alvestein
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would almost have to have a pw to test it out... Really it changes the the entire dynamic of the game. To much so for anyone to safely predict the effect, I mean it may just lead to no one attacking for 90% of the round if bounty wasn't high enough.
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
I think you're seeing a very remote negative side effect of this. Again, I suggest the land cap is tested in a free Azzer-run PW. Wean everyone slowly back into no land cap progressively might be a plan over the next 3-4 rounds.